9mm Browning long (9mm lang) Gustloff-Werke Hirtenberg WW2 and many more Gustloffboxes

Here an other (repacked) box from Gustloffwerke Hirtenberg. Packed during Wartime in 4 44 (Lot 4 from 1944) as stamped on the backside.
As this ammo bears also the old headstamp of 4 stars, it is NOT a production from wartime, but a solution to make Money out of the huge stocks left over from before the war. Most of this sorts of packing is from Mid 1943 to mid 1944 and in my opinion a last ditch, to sell this goods to interested parties outside of “Grossdeutschland”. Maybe Sweden, who used this caliber…

There was also a sale of a lot of pinfires, who knews for what Country…certainly not for Germany or former Austria…
see here:

Here an other box of handgun ammo (in my opinion also REPACKED newly for sale): Even as they used HP Numbers on the box…

8mm Lebel -Box Gustloff-kplt hs S I M

This package CONTAINS HS : LEBEL S.I.M, certainly not made during wartime by HP…
8mm Lebel -hs Lebel S I M

As I was very often in the old days in HP (than when HP was still working), i had access to a lot of Paperwork…there was no mention of any production of civilian PISTOL ammo like this exotic calibers, during wartime.
But here are a few box-copies from Rifle-ammo stamped on the boxes as from 1943 to 1944 under use of old HP-Numbers on the boxes. This are maybe also only packed by Gustloff-Werke from existing stock, to sell…
Here are the pics:

Front-and backside of Box…

and here:
TMR 13Gramm Nr 990S- by Gustloff Box RS

HP Number 1001/990S Softnose 13Gram bullet

Here:
VMR 13Gramm- by Gustloff Box Front

Same case number, but Bullet number 1015S (FMJ)

Enjoy the pics…
An interesting time, and I wish, I knew, where this ammo went to…

Considering all this, it is not correct, to state that packets which are stamped with dates from 43 and 44 with H headstamps or similar ones, are MADE during war.
This is only sure, for ammo which HAVE a stylish G in the headstamp, but not the other ones…

Thanks for posting these images Peter !

I agree about your comments wrt the “G” hs. Gustloff pkts seem to contain the Hirtenberg “H” hs at least as often as the newer “G” hs. Likely old stock ??

Is this the same “G” they used for internal testing of the 7,9 Mauser militarily cartridges?